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race 2 @ easy sunday

PostPosted: 06 Apr 2020 11:01
by Ilya
Ilya vs Samuel Race 2


At t = 5 36 16 you can see that a little collision occurred, Nadeo did not see it.
In my opinion, Samuel violated rule 11.
In this situation, Rainer asked me why I canceled the 10th rule, because there was no contact, I went cleanly

Points: Red 9- Blue 12
Blue: Ilya
Red: Lg07
Red: Samuel
Red: Venhobel
Blue: Fairplay
Blue: Donmasion

http://prntscr.com/rtwyhi This is a collision screenshot. It is difficult to find because there was a small collision.

Re: race 2 @ easy sunday

PostPosted: 06 Apr 2020 13:02
by euphoria
Check timestamp and replay, I don't find the situation there...

H

Re: race 2 @ easy sunday

PostPosted: 06 Apr 2020 15:51
by Ilya
euphoria wrote:Check timestamp and replay, I don't find the situation there...

H


Sorry Harald inserted the wrong replay.
Fixed

Re: race 2 @ easy sunday

PostPosted: 06 Apr 2020 16:11
by venhobel
Thx for correct replay.

In this situation, Rainer asked me why I canceled the 10th rule, because there was no contact, I went cleanly


Ilya, thought i had to use my tiller to avoid you but after watching replay -> no move on my side to avoid you-> you passed clear in front of me !
If i protested manual on the water (i am not sure) I withdraw from this.

thx, rainer

Re: race 2 @ easy sunday

PostPosted: 06 Apr 2020 16:17
by Ilya
venhobel wrote:Thx for correct replay.

In this situation, Rainer asked me why I canceled the 10th rule, because there was no contact, I went cleanly


Ilya, thought i had to use my tiller to avoid you but after watching replay -> no move on my side to avoid you-> you passed clear in front of me !
If i protested manual on the water (i am not sure) I withdraw from this.

thx, rainer

No problem Rainer u only asked why me cancelled pen

Re: race 2 @ easy sunday

PostPosted: 06 Apr 2020 16:48
by euphoria
Ilya wrote:At t = 5 36 16 you can see that a little collision occurred, Nadeo did not see it.
In my opinion, Samuel violated rule 11.

No pen from VSK
- either because VSK wanted to penalize Ilya (typically 2008-version 18.3), but he already had received 10 pen
- or because there is no contact on Samuels replay

This smells like 6 pen points to Samuel, unless he has a replay that showed he was keeping clear and giving room.

Harald

Re: race 2 @ easy sunday

PostPosted: 06 Apr 2020 17:58
by samuel
Sorry for late here. Yesterday I had problem with autosave replay, does not work none race. I just manual saved 2 replays (rio and sydnei). It was my fault no save all replays as event host.

About race 2 - I am 100% there are no contact in my screen, otherwise nadeo would give me a pen. AS everbody in vsk know, into race we are not syncro due the ping are different (lag).

I am say the truth, but whatever the result. it was fun once again to racing. =]

sam

Re: race 2 @ easy sunday

PostPosted: 06 Apr 2020 20:10
by euphoria
If no replay, hard to exonerate you. I trust u when u say no crash, but keeping clear is not only about avoiding collision. Sorry.

Harald

Re: race 2 @ easy sunday

PostPosted: 06 Apr 2020 22:02
by samuel
No problem. WD BLUe

Re: race 2 @ easy sunday

PostPosted: 06 Apr 2020 22:31
by Ilya
samuel wrote:No problem. WD BLUe

Samuel if you are sure that you did not have contact, I cancel the protest

Re: race 2 @ easy sunday

PostPosted: 06 Apr 2020 23:50
by samuel
Samuel if you are sure that you did not have contact, I cancel the protest


Formally I think too late, but thanks for kindness. The good lesson to me of it all is: Event host shall to manual save all replays.
Due this, I ask if possible ADM site, to include in S.I for the next event as mandatory procedure.

Re: race 2 @ easy sunday

PostPosted: 07 Apr 2020 11:45
by venhobel
Event host shall to manual save all replays.
Due this, I ask if possible ADM site, to include in S.I for the next event as mandatory procedure.


... and host should also give competitors the time to save replays.
Thx rainer