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ranked @ flow thinking - sam x shuraz

PostPosted: 21 May 2020 19:48
by samuel
race 1 at TRC 21 may.

replay time 7:55:91

it was a trap on leeward mark. sam is overlap, and it was green on my painel. i dont know why the game gave overlap for aleks in the last moment.


Re: ranked @ flow thinking - sam x shuraz

PostPosted: 21 May 2020 21:05
by Shura

I think we were overlap with Samuel at 0:08 sec video.
but I would agree with Jean's protest 0:28 but he did not protest.

Re: ranked @ flow thinking - sam x shuraz

PostPosted: 21 May 2020 21:58
by euphoria
When Thinkhard enter the zone (7:46.70), he overlap Shura by half a boat.
He must have mixed green 10 and red 18.2a.

Harald

Re: ranked @ flow thinking - sam x shuraz

PostPosted: 21 May 2020 23:08
by samuel
I was clear overlap and shuraz could not go inside, I think the best way to avoid my trap was go outside.

Re: ranked @ flow thinking - sam x shuraz

PostPosted: 22 May 2020 00:29
by jiel
Sam if you were overlapped then Shura is inside and has mark-room. On my side I think it is difficult to decide. A third party (Harald) saw you were overlapped and mark-room for Shura. Could the Nadeo wrong on such situations ? I dont know.

On the other hand, because Shura admits to have broken a rule at t=28" of his video without to have done any 360 for it, I suggest to cancel this race. What do you think guys ?

JL

Re: ranked @ flow thinking - sam x shuraz

PostPosted: 22 May 2020 01:28
by samuel
i am sure 100% i was overlap with green flag on painel. just a few mile seconds before pen i lost it. but may be a bug from the game, once the best way to shuraz to keep clear was go outer.

Re: ranked @ flow thinking - sam x shuraz

PostPosted: 22 May 2020 07:18
by Shura
jiel wrote:
On the other hand, because Shura admits to have broken a rule at t=28" of his video without to have done any 360 for it, I suggest to cancel this race. What do you think guys ?

JL

I think that all participants made mistakes. I agree to cancel this race.

Re: ranked @ flow thinking - sam x shuraz

PostPosted: 22 May 2020 13:48
by euphoria
samuel wrote:i am sure 100% i was overlap with green flag on painel. just a few mile seconds before pen i lost it. but may be a bug from the game.

I have never seen such a bug before. Here we have only one mark, and there is no one who has left the zone, no one who has passed the mark. And you know I have the 2L zone tool the check zone entry, and at the moment of entry you overlapped half of Shuraz boat, so it was no marginal case. On your panel you have green 10 and red 18.2a in such cases. So you had to give mark-room to Shuraz. We have to trust those calls from the VSK umpire unless the replay shows it's clearly wrong (see VTC SI 3.8.5). Here the replay shows it's clearly a correct call...

Harald

Re: ranked @ flow thinking - sam x shuraz

PostPosted: 22 May 2020 15:16
by samuel
Shura wrote:
jiel wrote:
On the other hand, because Shura admits to have broken a rule at t=28" of his video without to have done any 360 for it, I suggest to cancel this race. What do you think guys ?

JL

I think that all participants made mistakes. I agree to cancel this race.


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ok no problem for cancel race 1. always a good lesson here at forum. thanks guys